Yamaha stage keyboards: What’s next?

Lately, I’ve been contemplating the future of the Yamaha Stage keyboard line: the YC organ and CP digital piano. Both keyboard lines are mature; the CPs were released in January 2019 and the YCs were launched a year later in January 2020. Both models have received updates (including new voices). The latest updates, however, feel like “life extension” updates while new models are in the latter stages of development.

Does it make sense to merge the two product lines and reduce the number of SKUs? That would be a bit of challenge for Yamaha as organ-focus and piano-focus are defining features for the YC and CP, repsectively. In terms of sound, the updates have brought both lines closer together even though the front panels and user interface remain distinct. The YC got a lot of additional AP and EP voices bringing it into CP territory.

Then there is the “CK effect.” The CK is an all-rounder with drawbars, CP-like front panel controls and a set of secondary sounds which, frankly, leave both YC and CP wanting. So, given CK, it should be possible to merge the two stage keyboard product lines. Right?

These thoughts prompted me to take a look under the hood of both YC and CP. Gigantic, purpose-built front panels aside, YC and CP are brother and sister as far as digital electronics are concerned. There are a few differences on the analog side such as CP’s balanced XLR outputs. Of course, the keybeds are different, too, in keeping with organ-, EP- and AP-focus.

Yamaha Stage CP block diagram (click to enlarge)

Let’s tour stage CP first. The primary digital components are:

  • Yamaha SWX09 CPU and DSP (248MHz internal clock)
  • Yamaha SWP70 tone generator (191.9232MHz internal clock)

The SWX09 integrates an ARM Cortex host processor, an unspecified DSP core, and a raft of external interfaces. SWX09 also contains an AWM2-compatible tone generator and effects/mixing section. In stage CP, the wave ROM, wave RAM and DSP RAM interfaces are unused. Board real estate is wired for DSP SDRAM; the board position is unpopulated.

Without SWX DSP RAM, the CP models cannot implement Virtual Resonance Modeling (VRM).

The SWX09 is a mainstay in the Yamaha CLP digital piano line. The SWX09 is the primary workhorse component in the CLP-685 and P-515 digital pianos, for example. The P-515 and CLP-685 each have 256MBytes of wave ROM which should give us a rough idea of the size of the CFX and Bösendorfer waveforms (samples). [The CLP and P-515 EPs are relatively old and probably aren’t very big in comparison.]

We see the SWP70 tone generator throughout Yamaha’s many product lines, so it’s not surprising to see it in the stage CP, too. The CP has 2GBytes of NAND flash waveform memory. Its SWP70 has DSP RAM and wave RAM. DSP RAM supports effect processing and Wave RAM caches in-flight (most recently used) waveform samples. The SWP70 has its own unpopulated DSP RAM position, labelled “For future model”.

Yamaha Stage YC block diagram (click to enlarge)

Not to leave anyone in suspense, the future model is YC. The YC SWX09 gets DSP SDRAM and the SWP70 gets its second DSP RAM channel filled. The CP is mainly a sample-playback engine while YC implements a Virtual Circuit Modeling organ engine in addition to sample-playback. I’m guessing that the SWX09 DSP hosts the all-important rotary speaker effect.

The YC’s waveform memory is the same capacity as CP: 2GBytes total waveform NAND flash. 2GBytes may seem gargantuan versus P-515’s 256MBytes. Pianos are memory hogs and with all of the updates, those 2GByte waveform memories may be full up (or close to capacity).

It will be interesting to see where Yamaha takes the Mark II stage keyboards. Here’s a few thoughts.

The CK61/CK88 gave Yamaha valuable experience with integration of organ, piano and other sampled voices. They have a lot of available content (voices, waveforms) and software IP (organ and rotary speaker simulation, AWM2, FM, VRM). If they combine their experience with existing technology, they could issue three models:

  • 61 Semi-weighted waterfall keys (organ focus)
  • 73 BHS weighted keys (EP focus)
  • 88 GEX piano-action keys (AP focus)

Unifying the YC and CP designs into one reduces the number of separate SKUs from five to three and increases economy through scale.

There’s a lot of competitive pressure to produce an all-in-one stage keyboard. Nord (Clavia) have not been sitting on their hands and the Nord Stage (4) marches on! Yamaha’s own Montage M series shows the way, packing all-rounder functionality into a single keyboard.

As to new technology, announcements for the CLP-800 series Clavinova pianos are touting “a new tone generator chip with increased computational power” and imply that the new TG chip enables enhanced Virtual Resonance Modeling. An SWX10, perhaps? I’d like to see both VRM and VCM organ technology in the same package.

      
                 Physical
    Keyboard   Waveform Mem  Expansion mem
    ---------  ------------  -------------
    CLP-685      256 MBytes
    P-515        256 MBytes
    PSR-SX900      2 GBytes     1 GByte
    PSR-SX700      1 GByte    400 MBytes
    DGX-670      512 MBytes
    CSP-170        1 GByte

Copyright © 2024 Paul J. Drongowski

Yamaha CP73 and CP88: Da manuals

The Yamaha CP73 and CP88 Owner’s Manual (PDF) and Supplementary Manual (PDF) are now on-line at the CP products download page.

The Supplementary Manual has a compact list of CP voices, including the new voices added in OS Version 1.10.

All right, all right, you’re wondering about the organ voices:

     # Name            CC#
    -- --------------  ---
    01 Bright Bars     33
    02 Click Organ     34
    03 Draw Organ 1    35
    04 All Bars Out    36
    05 Draw Organ 2    37
    06 60s Combo       38
    07 Compact         39
    08 Panther         40
    09 Pipe Organ 1    41
    10 Pipe Organ 2    42

These look like voices that are copped from the Motif/Montage. It’s a little disappointing to not have drawbar control and so forth. I’m not sure what “CC#” means in this context.

The “other” voice category is quite limited, too:

     # Name            CC#
    -- --------------  ---
    01 Syn Lead 1      50
    02 Syn Lead 2      51
    03 Syn Bass        52
    04 E.Bass          53
    05 A.Bass          54
    06 Steel Gt        55
    07 Clean Gt        56
    08 Syn Brass       57

Forget woodwinds and acoustic brass. Forget voice editing. All you get is attack and release parameters to tweeze in the Sub section. You’ll need to buy a synth.

I think the CP73/CP88 are the “pro” version of Reface CP. Surely, their design was influenced by the immediacy of the Reface CP front panel — very intuitive and easy to change effects while playing. The CP73/CP88 are stage pianos. They are “bottom boards” in need of a “top board” for woodwinds, brass, lead, organ and all of the other stuff multi-keyboardists need to cover. The “other” voices are just enough to cover the odd non-piano part at a gig.

The CP73/CP88 have master keyboard capability with four zones. All of the usual configuration parameters are provided including bank select(s) and program change.

Check out the latest issue of the Yamaha Production Guide, too.

Copyright © 2019 Paul J. Drongowski

Winter NAMM 2019: Yamaha CP73 and CP88

As I mentioned in my last post, Yamaha have announced two new stage pianos: CP73 and CP88. Features in common are:

  • Three premium grand pianos: CFX, S700 and Bösendorfer Imperial 290
  • Two upright piano Voices: vintage U1 and flagship SU7
  • Five electric pianos for covering all music genres back to the 1970s
  • Yamaha CP OS updates enhance features and add new instrument Voices
  • CP OS v1.1 adds 67 Rd (Bright and Dark), Wide Wr & Yamaha C7 grand piano Voices
  • Dedicated effects and effect controls for each Section (Piano, E Piano and Sub)
  • Master delay, reverb and EQ effects with dedicated realtime controls
  • Soundmondo social sound sharing gives access to thousands of free sounds
  • Seamless Sound Switching: change sounds while holding notes without sound cutoff
  • One-to-one UI for direct sound control during stage or studio performance
  • 2 Ch. USB Audio/MIDI Interface for audio recording and playback & MIDI control
  • Balanced XLR & unbalanced 1⁄4” stereo outputs covers a wide-range of connectivity
  • Four-zone Master Keyboard mode lets you control external hardware and software
  • Dual 1/4″ AUX line inputs connects second keyboards, mobile devices and more

The CP88 has an NW-GH3 keyboard with synthetic ebony and ivory key tops and the CP73 has a balanced hammer 73-note action. The CP88 is 41 pounds while the CP73 is a lighter 28.9 pounds. How much is this going to set ya back? CP88: $2,499.99 and CP73: $1,999.99.

Here’s a link to the official Yamaha demo (no yakking).

Kraft Music has demo videos with no talking and a full demo with Blake Angelos. The Kraft demo shows off the CP73, which looks quite portable! The Sub adds a the usual pads, synths and things, but has its own tricks. In the non-talking demo, Blake shows off a “live looping” type performance at roughly 6:00. And, yes, the CP does B-3. Blake shows off “All Bars Out” starting at 8:30 with rotary speed changes.

As I mentioned earlier, these instruments are built for pros. The acoustic pianos have wide dynamic range — no cheap out sampling. The chassis is sturdy aluminum. Both models provide balanced XLR outputs and internal power supply (no wall wart). The front panel interface is divided into sections: Live Set, acoustic piano, electric piano, sub and master. Each section is enabled by retro toggle switches. If you scan the front panel, there are lots and lots of (dedicated) digital effects. The sub section adds pad/strings, organ, chromatic percussion and other (bass, guitar, etc.). [Wish I knew what else is hiding under “other.”]

The auxiliary inputs do not route through the internal effects. Shame, lost opportunity, but could save hauling a separate mixer to small piano gigs. External audio can be routed through USB into the CP.

A big question is “Are the CP73 and CP88 Nord Stage killers?” Hmmm, no real-time drawbar control and no “mini synth” like the Stage. On the other hand, the CPs have Advanced Mode for creating novel instrument and effect routing (e.g., looping). Yamaha makes excellent, pro digital pianos (stage, studio, or home). So, if piano were my primary instrument, I would definitely have a fly-off between the CP and Stage before putting one on the credit card.

Copyright © 2019 Paul J. Drongowski

Winter NAMM 2019: Korg and more

Back on the streets at home just in time for Korg to drop its newest products. The details are up on the Korg Web site, so there isn’t a need to deep dive the details here.

The Kog Minilogue brings a smile to my face whenever I play it. Since I don’t have an actual need for it, “play it” means “noodle in the store.” However, it is a constant temptation for an impulse purchase.

Thus, I’m pleased to see a new model: the Korg Minilogue XD. Like its updates to the venerable microKorg, Korg are smart to pursue and extend winners. The XD keeps much of the basics intact. The front panel slider is now a joystick — a good change in my opinion. The XD adds a VPM (Variable Phase Modulation)/FM oscillator allowing two op FM voices. Memory is greatly expanded to 500 locations. And two control voltage (CV) inputs.

Expected street price is $650 USD. (The original model streets for about $520.)

Korg also dropped the Volca Modular. If you want to dip into synthesis, here’s your toy, er, tool: eight modules, 50 patch points, 16-step sequencer, “West Coast” style. Yeah, sure, Korg cut cost. The patch points are printed circuit board (PCB) mounted SIL and DIL connectors which take pin-style patch cables instead of 3.5mm plugs. But, wot did you expect for $200 street?

I have to wonder how the Volca Modular would mate to littleBits synth elements?

Finally, Korg revealed the Volca Drum digital percussion synthesizer. Bang on the drum all day with a 16-step sequencer and MIDI IN. Expected street price is $170 USD. Both Volcas will ship in early 2019.

Piano storm

It’s just rainin’ pianos up in here!

Casio have been teasing what could be a new stage piano. [I don’t do teasers any more.] Casio also have new CDP models: CDP-S100 and CDP-S350. “CDP” apparently means “Compact Digital Piano.” Both pianos feature new piano samples and the new Casio Scaled Hammer Action II Keyboard. The CDP-S100 and CDP-S350 have estimated street prices of $500 and $675, respectively. [I’m awaiting USA pricing.]

The CDP-S100 is aimed squarely at the cost conscious and portable Yamaha Piaggero series. The S100 has 64-note polyphony, ten voices, reverb/chorus, two built-in speakers, and battery power (six AA batteries). It weighs 10.5kg (23.1 pounds) and is quite slender. The speakers are front-firing a la the Studiologic NUMA Compact 2x.

The CDP-S350 takes a page from the Korg Havian playbook and the Yamaha DGX series by incorporating arranger keyboard features with a high quality piano. Quick specs include 64 note polyphony, 700 voices, 10 user songs, 200 rhythms (AKA “styles”), auto-harmonization, 100 arpeggios, and battery operation. Weight is 10.9kg (24 pounds). The S350 also employs built-in, front-firing speakers.

Yamaha are announcing the new CP73 and CP88 stage pianos, both clearly positioned to compete with Nord on-stage. The CP88 features Natural Wood Graded Hammer (NW-GH) action while the CP73 has 73 equally-weighted keys. Both axes have Yamaha’s best piano sounds: Yamaha CFX and Bösendorfer Imperial grands. Yamaha also got the message from pros: Seamless Sound Switching and XLR balanced outputs.

Taking a close look at the front panel, the new CPs offer three sound sections: acoustic piano, electric piano and “sub” from which one builds splits and layers. There are LIVE SET buttons to quickly change between configurations. Pitch bend and modulation control are through two levers located in the upper left corner of the work surface.

Like Nord, Yamaha are offering “content upgrades.” The first available sound upgrades include Rhodes (“1967 tine piano), Wurli (“reed piano”) and Yamaha C7 “studio” grand piano.

Expect $2,499.99 USD for the CP88 and $1,999.99 for the CP73. I find it interesting that the press release is out of Rellingen, Germany — home of the Genos™ and other Yamaha arranger products. Probably not significant.

Copyright © 2019 Paul J. Drongowski